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141 – Ageism and membership

How will age affect the process of entering the community?

While in many entries there has been discussion of this there should be a clarity of what it means to ‘enter’ the community. In many communes, monastic groups around the world there are full-time members living in the community perpetually, there are transitionals (laypersons), novices, candidates and even, pilgrims etc. Depending on the type and beliefs of the group in question.
In fact the monastic orders of old were in a constant state of change due to changing ideas of what it meant to be a monk, philosopher or aesthetic.

It seems universal though that a lifetime membership should be just given out to people on a whim, a layperson can help at can be someone of any age giving up their limited leisure time if they believe in the community, or a student could be a transitional merely at the community to obtain experience and an education.

Someone deciding to move into the community on a permanent basis must be firstly old enough to by civil law to leave home or in foster situations, orphaned etc.

While it is not the intention of the community to become another foster system for the plight of abandoned children following the reasons for founding the community, every provision must be made in such circumstances, where possible, in final analysis no child should ever be abandoned.

Similarly someone who wishes to join at an advanced age and brings a huge wealth of experience, or a dedicated effort into the community exceptions can and should be made. Essentially ageism should not blind us to all prescriptive members.

All decisions (as stated in e108) should go through a group selection committee.

**Addendum: Members should go through a lengthy novice and training period to ensure that they will be happy within the community in the long run.

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140 – Community Hierarchy

How will the hierarchy of the community be decided?

There shouldn’t be a huge hierarchy, any sufficiently complex hierarchy creates too many divisions between those elected and those not elected into positions of control. We are all different levels of our chosen disciplines.

An elected official only holds power only within the purview of his office, any major decisions can be challenged to a debate of peers or a board of review if there is sufficient cause.

Furthermore, people will be randomly assigned to communities and all people within the community have a minimum of 20% of the their hours doing menial chores.

If the community should grow beyond one location there should there be another elected group above the individual communities at a regional, national or international level?

On a large scale representation of each discipline also needs to remain as equal as possible to avoid a bias towards a particular field of study or science. This of course would depend on how many people exist and could take the time to partake in such committees.

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132 – Salaries and Savings

How much do members earn?

At this point, this is very much an exercise in speculation. But some approximate values can be expressed based on current incomes for technically specialized people. In the UK for example, at time of writing, a graduate with 2 years experience can expect to receive anything from £20-30,000 depending on which region of the UK and the particular company hiring. With the community requiring some money to exist and provide food, water, electricity, insurance and other day to day essentials and materials for the members en mass we can suggest a saving of 5000 to 6000 every 6 months. for each individual should be more than feasible. Providing ample reduction in normal fees for competitive contracts from the community, while also giving the member a large amount of savings from 10,000 to 12,000 per year. But finally also allowing the community to save an excess for future hard times.

** Addendum , having run a business now for the last 5 years I would suggest that excess amounts would be poured primarily into a treasury.

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124

How are decisions made in the community?

There appear to be (from previous entries ) a number of methods emerging. Firstly an elected official can make decisions within the purview of his elected position. Secondly, there are are both short term and long term committees made of a random selection of members. Short term committees are created to resolve disputes in the case of an individual vs another or an individual vs an elected official.

Long term committees are created for a number of years to have authority or expertise over a particular part of the legislation, chore distribution etc. In all cases committees should be chosen at random from an equal spread of disciplines, gender etc.

Finally a 2/3 majority is necessary to pass, accept, agree on a verdict if this doesn’t occur more debate time should be allowed and then more members should be added or compromises created.

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123

How should new members be found?

The community should encourage new membership broadly through its website, through associations at universities and word of mouth. Affiliations to existing institutions and the creation of educational material software should help spread the word to encourage new members. Public debates and interaction should not be seen as a recruitment drive any interaction with the public should if asked only respond; “The community is always happy to welcome new members” we should be clear we don’t have ulterior motives to any of our acts that help the community and the world, our motive is what we are, what we do and we want the world to improve for the present and subsequent generations.

In fact certain responses should be crafted that give a unified response to all questions that are regularly demanded so the community can speak with one coherent response.

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122

What technologies should be used?

Initially due to budget constraints, space, health and safety issues, the initial community should focus purely on computer and IT technologies. These provide the most utility for the lowest costs.

As for software a primarily open source approach fits in line with an organisation trying to help the world and future generations without extending  the price tag.

As the community expands, gains members and space more labs and additional technologies can be integrated.

For the sake of expansion and diversity of members these labs should initially be multi-purpose.

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121

What (if any) are the methods of initiation?

Initiation, despite some overtones it has picked up does not imply that the community is a cult. Established communities and organisations use initiation ceremonies all the time, from university graduation days, to receiving a watch for your 21st birthday. There should be some official recognition of achievements not just for the community but for the individual. Public recognition of every grade is a sign of achievement and success.

There certainly should be a method of initiation into the community just to let people realise they are entering a new system, a moment they should remember, a time they should look back on.

Once such possibility is in the initial 6 months of entering the community to make a huge emphasis on the change the person is going through. Everyone enters equal that is certain they are given all the some basic clothing and items they are introduced to their teachers and staff. While there are many possibilities 2 things have a big reaction.

  1. Sudden environmental or external change greatly effects us
  2. Gradual unnoticed change suddenly noticed deeply effects us.

By moving into the the community we have already accomplished point 1 by radically changing the environment people are accustomed to. I have numerous opinions on how to achieve option 2 which are merely conjecture.

Firstly, each and every long term member candidate will shave their head on entry, it may seem extreme but if you want a generation of newcomers to identify and connect  with each other creating a common unnatural situation works very well, it is in line with entering the community as equals and in 6 months you will have your hair back with its natural colour at a reasonable length.

Secondly, a lack of mirrors in the novice community would only aid in the effect of gradual unnoticed change. After 6 months of exercise, meditation, healthy eating and regular sleep only the healthiest of individuals would remain unchanged at the end.

After an optional shave the candidates would have access to a full body mirror of their new selves which should be a radical change from their initial point.

Levels of BMI, cardiovascular fitness and making people redo any tests they initially did would all hammer home how much they have changed physically.

For mental  improvement show them their increase in levels in subjects in front of classes show the novice how far they have come in just 6 months welcome them to the community in a state of good health and positive thinking.

Each major step should be an exercise in showing the difference between now and where you were before.

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120

What contracts should exist between the community and the individual?

Contracts between a community and an individual seems initially repellent, as an idea. Although in such a complex environment with a society that pays individuals has ideas of ownership of goods and has mandatory regimes and possible punishments it seems necessary for an exhaustive legal and insurance based contract must exist if not for lifetime members at least then for transitory members who ware there for the university/ higher education learning / experience.

Contracts will likely include:

  • Forms of payments.
  • Acceptance of punitive measures in cases of inappropriate behaviour.
  • Minimum terms, training periods.
  • Insurance and healthcare.
  • Liability and external payments.

Now I am not a lawyer so there needs to be some legal representation to confirm the legal contract is acceptable. Eventually legally trained and qualified members of the community may well exist.

Also there may be variations of the contract in different host nations to correctly comply with civil law in that country as such there should be a publicly available (and translated) template that anyone can read with an up to date guide through the clauses and the reasons for each part so that the lay person can understand.

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119

What are the minimum and maximum ages one should be allowed to enter?

This will no doubt change over time as the organisation grows and lifespan increases. The upper limit on age will be only guesswork. Certainly the panels created to deliberate entrance  should take into account someones age till retirement or equally their youth. Initially, 18+ seems a reasonable standard and up to 60-65 as a maximum age.

However, it depends on how the community grows if eventually it offers an education system from infancy to university, the “starting age” drops dramatically if it starts an orphanage education system in developing countries it could drop to the new born.

Equally, life expectancy grows presently around 3 months a year so predicting a maximum age is very difficult.

These figures should be reviewed and debated regularly especially with relevant community changes or breakthroughs in longevity.

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118

What amount of vacation is acceptable?

The number mandated by countries of paid vacation days varies a lot. The best would be around 30 days of paid leave + national / public holidays. These should allow members to travel home for important festivals and family gatherings, it should also give much needed rest from community chores and give you exposure to a different lifestyle.

Additional mandated vacation will occur on a regular 2 or 3 year basis, where members are sent on sabbatical or abroad to broaden their experience of the world (e50).

Finally, there should probably be a variation of days for permanent and transitory members but not too vast.

The most complicated elements  would be in assuring the ‘pay’ into the savings account and holidays should only really be allowed at the end of the 6 month grace period.

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