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by James | May 23, 2014 | Exploration I

What system of dialogue will be implemented?

The concern of a dialogue is not to win an argument but to forge a greater understanding of the matter being discussed. Aristotle described and classified 4 types of arguments didactic, dialectical, examination arguments and contentious arguments. It wasn’t until recently and Waltron’s research which modernized the thoughts behind dialogues (1998).

In the new dialectic an argument is always an argument “for a purpose” whether for one person or another’s benefit, each speaker may have a goal or motive.

Types of dialogue

TYPE	INITIAL SITUATION	MAIN GOAL	PARTICIPANTS AIM
Persuasion dialogue	Conflicting points of view	Resolution such problems by verbal means	Persuade the other(s) in the dialogue
Negotiation	Conflict of interests and need for more cooperation	Making a deal	Get the best out of it for oneself
Inquiry	General ignorance	Growth of knowledge and agreement	Find a proof or destroy one
Deliberation	Need for action	Reach a decision	Influence outcome
Information seeking	Personal ignorance	Spreading knowledge and revealing postions	Gain, pass on, show or hide personal knowledge
Eristics	Conflict and antagonism	Reaching a, provisional, accommodation in a relationship	Strike the other party and win in the eyes of onlookers.

The system used in the community will usually be an inquiry, persuasion or information seeking dialogue. To make it easier to tell when a dialogue has started key phrases might be worthwhile idea like “So we are discussing X now correct?” I need more research into dialogues before I write more entries.

[note: Dialogues are a form of discussion, not necessarily a debate, they were used as a teaching and reasoning method for thousands of years before falling out of vogue in recent times. The idea of discussing a principle with structured debate not just speaking louder or interrupting is a sorely required skill in the modern era. Remaining calm, noting logical fallacies in other arguments and our own is fundamental. It is especially useful in a community that actively seeks to improve itself, and where everyone should be able to voice an opinion.]

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by James | Jun 24, 2012 | Exploration I

Why use dialogue between members?

Dialogue is not an open conversation it is a formal discussion between groups or individuals with the intention to teach, learn or evaluate what is being suggested. In many schools, students would memorize notable dialogues that perfectly explained or clearly identified a particular subject. The reason for using them in the community is to keep alive the idea of clear logical reasoning and debate, this also prepares the student to use logical steps to draw conclusions from facts.

The other idea is to give a method of individual teaching create a framework to allow disagreements between members in a civil manner.

[note: I wrote and read a lot more later on dialogue and dialectic methods so I know this isn’t exactly a clear description of why we should use them, or even what dialogues truly are, it’s true that dialectic and dialogues feed the minds ability to debate and reason arguments, the noting of fallacies, etc. are all good reasons to have at least a broad understanding of the discipline, but I wrote more on the subject later.]